Legislature(1995 - 1996)

04/10/1995 08:17 AM House RES

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 HB 279 - MUNICIPAL RIVER HABITAT TAX CREDIT                                 
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE GARY DAVIS, PRIME SPONSOR, stated last year the                
 legislature passed HB 306 which allowed municipal governments to              
 offer a tax credit to property owners along the Kenai River who               
 improved their property to the degree that it enhanced or protected           
 the habitat value or corrected a previous development that was not            
 conducive to habitat value.  He explained HB 279 makes an                     
 improvement to that legislation.                                              
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS told committee members HB 279 deletes the                
 requirement that the Alaska Department of Fish and Game (ADF&G)               
 develop regulations to implement the tax credit provisions for                
 habitat protection on the Kenai River.  The proposed language                 
 mandates that any proposed municipal ordinance developed to                   
 implement this law will include the regulatory aspects of the                 
 legislation.  He stated the ordinance must be approved by the ADF&G           
 before it is adopted.  Improvements which will qualify for tax                
 credits will be included in the ordinance.  He said ADF&G is also             
 required to respond in writing to the municipality within 60 days             
 of receipt of an ordinance by approving or giving the basis for               
 disapproval.                                                                  
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS stated Section 1 deletes language that                   
 requires credits be certified by ADF&G.  A credit may be granted              
 for an improvement that has been constructed in compliance with               
 state and federal laws.  He said Section 2 adds subsection (d)                
 establishing that a municipal ordinance is the vehicle for                    
 certification of the tax credits.  The commissioner of ADF&G must             
 approve or disapprove the ordinance within 60 days after receipt.             
 He explained Section 3 repeals subsection (c) of an existing                  
 statute which required ADF&G to establish regulations.                        
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS said HB 279 is taking the establishment of               
 regulations related to a tax credit within the Kenai Peninsula                
 Borough and giving that authority to the Borough to do it by                  
 ordinance.  He noted the more local involvement and authority there           
 is, the better off the citizens are.                                          
                                                                               
 Number 510                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE DAVIES asked what the purpose is of the language on            
 page 2, lines 14-16, "without regard to the scope of the protection           
 or restoration that would be achieved by the improvements."                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS replied when an ordinance is drafted and the             
 department is reviewing whether or not the ordinance meets the                
 requirements of an improvement to the habitat, there are varying              
 degrees of improvement.  He said if a person owns 100 feet of Kenai           
 Riverfront property and makes an improvement, the improvement could           
 include a 20 foot boardwalk or it could include a complete 100 foot           
 boardwalk.  He explained the ordinance the department will be                 
 required to improve will not have any degree.  He noted the                   
 department also has concern about the clearness of the language.              
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE DAVIES stated he is concerned about the word "scope"           
 and how it relates to the authorized aid in protecting or restoring           
 habitat.                                                                      
                                                                               
 Number 545                                                                    
                                                                               
 TOM BOEDEKER, KENAI PENINSULA BOROUGH ATTORNEY, testified via                 
 teleconference and stated last year the legislature passed a bill             
 that provides for an optional tax credit for protective measures              
 and improvements to the river in regard to habitat.  He said during           
 the last year it has become apparent that perhaps the regulatory              
 aspects of the legislation and the requirement to adopt regulations           
 may have been an unwieldy tool.  HB 279 has been requested to ease            
 that problem.                                                                 
                                                                               
 MR. BOEDEKER said one problem is the existing legislation requires            
 the definition of what is a protective measure to be adopted by               
 regulation, which involves a long drawn out process.  He stated it            
 is easier and better to have the assembly take first crack at what            
 it was wanting to give credit for and what it thought would be a              
 protective measure.  He explained the process would involve having            
 the commissioner of ADF&G review that and say yes or no as to                 
 whether or not they are truly protective or improvement measures              
 regarding the habitat.  He noted that would be a check on the                 
 process so if the assembly went off in left field and said an                 
 improvement measure was to build an office building, the                      
 commissioner could say that does not improve habitat.  He stressed            
 the objective of having the review is to ensure that truly                    
 protective or improvement measures are being given a credit.                  
                                                                               
 MR. BOEDEKER stated the language regarding the scope was to                   
 specifically address the question of local policy versus                      
 departmental policy on what is a wise activity to give a credit               
 for.  He said perhaps boardwalks are the choice of the local                  
 assembly to give credit as an improvement to protect the bank area            
 but perhaps a boardwalk does not fit with ADF&G's policies and                
 objectives as to what they would like to see.  He noted without               
 regard to the actual benefit received from the project, the                   
 department's determination would be based on whether or not a                 
 project is a protective measure or not.  He explained the cost                
 benefit analysis and the worthiness of the project to give a credit           
 would be a local option, which would probably be best decided by              
 the assembly without having to involve ADF&G in the process.                  
                                                                               
 MR. BOEDEKER said HB 279 would also take ADF&G out of the loop in             
 regard to each individual project.  He stated ADF&G felt with the             
 existing legislation, they would be required to review each project           
 to determine if it met the definitions and actual construction.  He           
 stressed it is the desire to see that administration function at              
 the local level and to not place any additional burden on ADF&G,              
 especially since ADF&G does not have a full time habitat person in            
 the area.                                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 590                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE DAVIES clarified the local assembly wants to                   
 authorize anything having a positive benefit but does not want to             
 make any limitations as to what fraction that benefit may represent           
 of the ideal possible improvements that could be taken.                       
                                                                               
 MR. BOEDEKER replied that is correct.                                         
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE DAVIES expressed concern that the word "scope" can             
 be misread to say ADF&G cannot even make the determination as to              
 whether the project is beneficial or not.                                     
                                                                               
 MR. BOEDEKER said he understood Representative Davies' concern.  He           
 noted there had been proposed additional language when the bill was           
 drafted but legislative drafting thought the language would not               
 work.  He stressed it is not desired to have the cost benefit                 
 analysis done at the state level because if the commissioner does             
 the reviewing, it is almost certain that regulations will be needed           
 to set criteria for his decision in order to avoid a legal                    
 challenge against his decision.  The criteria will be worked out at           
 the local level.  He thought it would be redundant to do that at              
 both levels.  He felt there probably is better language but he did            
 not know what that might be.                                                  
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE DAVIES suggested the following language, "without              
 regard to the percentage of the total protection or restoration               
 that could be achieved by ideal improvement measures".                        
                                                                               
 MR. BOEDEKER thought that language might work.                                
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS expressed concern about the common definition            
 of the word "scope".  He said perhaps "scope" is the right word.              
 He asked Mr. Boedeker if he has a definition of what "scope" is               
 commonly understood to mean.                                                  
                                                                               
 (Representative NICHOLIA joined the committee.)                               
                                                                               
 MR. BOEDEKER replied "scope" would generally apply to all aspects             
 of the coverage--how far it goes and the means of implementation              
 --but it is generally focused on the overall coverage as opposed to           
 the details.  He said the word "scope" was used in the original               
 draft as an additional identifier (indiscernible).  He stated the             
 word "scope" is less precise.                                                 
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS clarified in using the word "scope" value does           
 not ordinarily jump out.                                                      
                                                                               
 MR. BOEDEKER said value can be included but it is not the first               
 thing that leaps out when using the term.                                     
                                                                               
 Number 667                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE OGAN asked if HB 279 could potentially give a                  
 business that owns property on the Kenai River, looking for a good            
 tax write off with the borough, the ability to do a lot of nice               
 improvements to enhance their business on the waterfront in the               
 name of habitat protection and get a real good tax break.                     
                                                                               
 MR. BOEDEKER said that question was discussed.  He said in earlier            
 versions of the bill, the credit was not allowed if the project was           
 primarily for commercial benefit.  The discussion was it does not             
 really matter if the project is protecting the river if it is an              
 incidental benefit to commercial versus private and it should not             
 matter if the project is going to protect the river.  It was                  
 determined at that time, the objective was to protect the river,              
 not go against commercial versus private.  He noted the application           
 of this would be up to the local assembly as to whether or not they           
 would give a particular item a credit or not.                                 
                                                                               
 MR. BOEDEKER noted under existing legislation, if ADF&G identifies            
 19 items as qualified, they would not have to grant the credit to             
 all of them.  He said that has not changed in HB 279.  He explained           
 the assembly determined if commercial was a problem, it could be              
 addressed at the local level.                                                 
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS thought existing legislation also limits the             
 amount of tax credit to 50 percent of the value.                              
                                                                               
 MR. BOEDEKER said that is correct.  He stated the credit is limited           
 to 50 percent of the monies spent.  He explained if the tax bill              
 was $5,000 and a project cost $10,000, that person would be                   
 eligible for a tax credit of $2,500.                                          
                                                                               
 TAPE 95-47, SIDE B                                                            
 Number 000                                                                    
                                                                               
 GERON BRUCE, LEGISLATIVE LIAISON, ADF&G, stated in the ADF&G                  
 position paper contained in committee members folders, the                    
 department identified the language being discussed as an item that            
 needed further discussion so the department was clear as to what              
 was expected from the department.  He felt the discussion the                 
 committee has had and the discussion which occurred in the Senate             
 Resources Committee has provided the department with a                        
 clarification as to what the department's role is expected to be in           
 the process.                                                                  
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIRMAN GREEN asked if Mr. Bruce was speaking in favor of the             
 amendment or in favor of leaving the language as is.                          
                                                                               
 MR. BRUCE replied if the language can be further clarified in                 
 statute, that would be ADF&G's preference.  He said if improved               
 language is not possible, ADF&G has adequate clarification as to              
 how the process is supposed to work and what the department's role            
 is.                                                                           
                                                                               
 (Representative BARNES joined the committee.)                                 
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS asked if the department feels the proposed               
 amendment would give more detail to their concern.                            
                                                                               
 MR. BRUCE responded it is the department's understanding that this            
 language is what is intended--the department is not to make any               
 judgement on whether a particular proposal achieves a benefit that            
 has a desirable cost benefit or is better than some other                     
 alternative.  He said an example is boardwalks.  It could be argued           
 that the ideal boardwalk would be made out of a metal grate which             
 would allow sunlight to go through it, allowing growth under the              
 boardwalk but that would be more expensive than a simple wooden               
 boardwalk.  However, a simple wooden boardwalk would provide some             
 measure of habitat protection.  He noted this language would make             
 it clear that the simple wooden boardwalk would be an improvement             
 and something the department would approve without regard to the              
 ideal benefit that might be secured from a metal grate type                   
 boardwalk.                                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 090                                                                    
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIRMAN GREEN recalled in the past there has been some                    
 expensive attempts made to prevent erosion of shorelines such as              
 the use of huge rocks.  He wondered if that was voluntary or                  
 required.                                                                     
                                                                               
 MR. BRUCE stated the department's recommendation, to the extent               
 possible, is for the natural character of the shoreline be                    
 maintained.  Therefore, when the bank is hardened, fish habitat               
 qualities are lessened.  He said a bank hardened by the use of                
 boulders and other features, giving an even shoreline, is                     
 preferable to a straight wall which provides no fish habitat                  
 protection.  He noted that in general, hardening of the banks is              
 not something the department encourages.  Rather, the department              
 looks at other means such as boardwalks and the use of trees to               
 prevent erosion of shorelines.                                                
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIRMAN GREEN said, "the reason I brought that up...it seems to           
 me if that was a requirement there has been some precedence set               
 that your indication that metal is better because sunlight comes              
 through, it still provides keeping feet off the bank.  Is there a             
 significant difference in the cost between wood planking and metal            
 grating that are we doing a half-way measure...that is ultimately             
 if the wood then begins to deteriorate and we kill the plant life,            
 are we in worse shape ten years from now than we would have been              
 now?"                                                                         
                                                                               
 MR. BOEDEKER stated the borough is aware of a number of those                 
 problems and is not trying to dismiss them.  Rather, the borough is           
 trying to get a framework to be able to work with ADF&G to try and            
 define things while still allowing the local option.  He said the             
 borough has discussed trying to address some of the issues and                
 ADF&G's concerns.  The borough is trying to look forward to the               
 future to ensure that a credit is not given for things that will be           
 detrimental on the long term.  He stressed the desire is to avoid             
 burdening ADF&G with a lot of petty administration.                           
                                                                               
 Number 178                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE RAMONA BARNES recalled it has not been too many                
 years since the property owners along the Kenai River were required           
 to use huge boulders to stabilize their riverbank.  She wondered if           
 that requirement was not what it should have been.                            
                                                                               
 MR. BRUCE replied in cases where a land owner or property owner               
 wants to do something to restrict or impede the process of erosion            
 along their bank front and their action is below the mean high                
 water mark, they must get a permit from ADF&G.  He said ADF&G                 
 generally works with the land owner to get an improvement which               
 accomplishes both the purpose the land owner is interested in,                
 while maximizing habitat protection if possible.  He noted boulders           
 have been approved in the past but he did not think they were                 
 required.  Rather, boulders were an option the land owner felt was            
 within their ability to pay for and was better than some other                
 solution.                                                                     
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE BARNES recalled that to do any improvement to the              
 riverbank, it was required that a specific size of boulder be put             
 in.                                                                           
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE DAVIES made a MOTION to AMEND HB 279 on page 2, line           
 15, delete "scope of the protection or restoration that would be              
 achieved by the improvements." and insert "the percentage of the              
 total protection or restoration that could be achieved by ideal               
 improvement measures."                                                        
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS said he had no objection to the proposed                 
 amendment.                                                                    
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIRMAN GREEN asked if there were any objections to the                   
 amendment.  Hearing none, the MOTION PASSED.                                  
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS made a MOTION to MOVE CSHB 279 with attached             
 fiscal note out of committee with individual recommendations.                 
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIRMAN GREEN asked if there were any objections.  Hearing                
 none, the MOTION PASSED.                                                      
                                                                               

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